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Meta Superintelligence (MSL) is scrapping Llama 4 & probably abandoning open source AI altogether

Testing on Bohemoth stopped immediately after MSL was announced

www.nytimes.com/2025/07/14/t...
Last week, a small group of top members of the lab, including Alexandr Wang, 28, Meta's new chief A.I. officer, discussed abandoning the company's most powerful open source A.I. model, called Behemoth, in favor of developing a closed model, two people with knowledge of the matter said.
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contrast with Moonshot K2

Meta’s motives were all selfish — OSS would accelerate them

Moonshot’s are all around impact — OSS forces you to build generically to increase who will contribute to the ecosystem

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Tim Kellogg @timkellogg.me
explaining why they open sourced — to ensure that it’s broadly useful

OpenAI self-admits that they optimize their models for ChatGPT, o3 was made for DeepResearch

Moonshot was dissatisfied with that
For a closed-source ChatBot service, users have no idea what workflow or how many models are behind it. I've heard rumors that some major companies have dozens of models, hundreds of scenario classifications, and countless workflows behind their interfaces, claiming this is an "MoE model." Under "application-first" or "user experience-first" values, this approach is very natural and far more cost-effective than a single model. But this clearly isn't what AGI should look like. For a startup like Kimi, this approach not only makes you increasingly mediocre and greatly hinders technical progress but also makes it impossible to compete with major companies that have PMs polishing every button.
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